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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM
    • #399016
    This is a terrible idea. I have 29000 items for sale or as 'buy it now' duplicates waiting to auto list and am consistently in the top 7 sellers with many items within the price bracket you mention. This will render Delcampe VERY expensive and not worth using. Please also bear in mind it is mainly lower value items that sell whilst high ticket items do not attract as many buyers or viewers. This rule will make it not worthwhile staying on the site. I believe you need to urgently rethink or at least CONSULT with your users. I will have no option to remove around 20,000 items if this proceeds. I am VERY dissappointed in this and that Delcampe have not discussed the matter with users. It is quite clear that the value of items is not the issue. There are one or two users that are drowning the market in cheap duplicated rubbish, but we good dealers selling low value but QUALITY items are being punished also. I urge you to rethink urgently or I, and I suspect a large number of other usres will need to look elsewhere to sell. I have supported Delcampe in many ways, notwithstanding ALWAYS mentioning on Twitter etc and am bitterly dissappointed in this.
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    This is a terrible idea. I have 29000 items for sale or as 'buy it now' duplicates waiting to auto list and am consistently in the top 7 sellers with many items within the price bracket you mention. This will render Delcampe VERY expensive and not worth using. Please also bear in mind it is mainly lower value items that sell whilst high ticket items do not attract as many buyers or viewers. This rule will make it not worthwhile staying on the site. I believe you need to urgently rethink or at least CONSULT with your users. I will have no option to remove around 20,000 items if this proceeds. I am VERY dissappointed in this and that Delcampe have not discussed the matter with users. It is quite clear that the value of items is not the issue. There are one or two users that are drowning the market in cheap duplicated rubbish, but we good dealers selling low value but QUALITY items are being punished also. I urge you to rethink urgently or I, and I suspect a large number of other usres will need to look elsewhere to sell. I have supported Delcampe in many ways, notwithstanding ALWAYS mentioning on Twitter etc and am bitterly dissappointed in this.
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM
    • #399018
    Sorry mule skinner, my post reads like it is directed at you but it isn't! It is a cut and paste from my reply to the poll mentioned in delcampe email!
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    Sorry mule skinner, my post reads like it is directed at you but it isn't! It is a cut and paste from my reply to the poll mentioned in delcampe email!
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 3:35 PM
    • #399053
    So, delcampe comes clean....this cut and paste is from delcampes post on twitter

    "more and more volume of these small items which costs us a lot of money and server capacity".

    Why not tackle bulk sellers of cheap used rubbish rather than punishing sellers with quality items at low value?
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM
    • #399016
    This is a poorly thought through pricing strategy from Delcampe. Delcampe never seems to consult - it must be the Continental way of doing business!

    Already we see a knee jerk reaction to the hostility to soften the transition or rather just to extend the period - typical Delcampe. And I doubt that their software is capable of adjusting to the latest transition change proposed to differentiate and calculate between 'old' and 'new' transactions from 1 September!

    The goodwill build up over many years has evaporated in a matter of an ill thought through price change. This damage will prove difficult to recover from.

    Alan Catherall
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    This is a poorly thought through pricing strategy from Delcampe. Delcampe never seems to consult - it must be the Continental way of doing business!

    Already we see a knee jerk reaction to the hostility to soften the transition or rather just to extend the period - typical Delcampe. And I doubt that their software is capable of adjusting to the latest transition change proposed to differentiate and calculate between 'old' and 'new' transactions from 1 September!

    The goodwill build up over many years has evaporated in a matter of an ill thought through price change. This damage will prove difficult to recover from.

    Alan Catherall
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM
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    The French version of the philatelic forum is on fire with messages, 76 at the last count, all saying exactly the same as here. Does anyone think there is any merit in a mass protest and removal of all items in a single co-ordinated protest?
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    Sorry mule skinner, my post reads like it is directed at you but it isn't! It is a cut and paste from my reply to the poll mentioned in delcampe email!
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 3:35 PM
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM
    • #399016
    Hi James

    Unfortunately, I think you may have mis-read the announcement. The new fixed fee is IN ADDITION TO the 5.5% commission that we all have to pay - it is not a MINIMUM.

    There is therefore NO break even position - the fixed fees are extra.

    You sell a stamp for 10c, you pay 5.5% + 18c

    You sell a stamp for $1, you pay 5.5% + 18c

    You sell a stamp for $100, you pay 5.5% + 18c.

    :(

    Have a look at some of the other threads for further discussions.
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 5:03 PM
    • #399146
    This fee change is a total joke.Delcampe has built this site based on reasonable feesfor sellers to compete with ebay.The majority of buyers are not advanced with deep pockets for key items.I moved stock to Delcampe to specifically offer buyers low to midpriced items....and object to a concept of a high value site.I might as well keep everything in ebay.
    What is the problem for anyone to bypass low value listings...simply prompt
    the listings to appear from high to low.Presto no clutter no fuss.
    Who is going to regroup thousands of listings and rescan and renumbert these lots?
    Maybe the minimum fee charge should be added on to the buyers fees along with paypal charges....too bad Delcampe was a good thing,going the wrong way.They should remember what made them successful and perhaps deflating their ego and come back to earth.
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    Hi James

    Unfortunately, I think you may have mis-read the announcement. The new fixed fee is IN ADDITION TO the 5.5% commission that we all have to pay - it is not a MINIMUM.

    There is therefore NO break even position - the fixed fees are extra.

    You sell a stamp for 10c, you pay 5.5% + 18c

    You sell a stamp for $1, you pay 5.5% + 18c

    You sell a stamp for $100, you pay 5.5% + 18c.

    :(

    Have a look at some of the other threads for further discussions.
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 5:25 PM
    • #399167
    Forgot to mention - they've changed the implementation date to 1 January 2013 for sales LISTED before 1 September so you'll have a bit more time to amend/move/increase the price of your sales.

    Link (http)
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    This is a poorly thought through pricing strategy from Delcampe. Delcampe never seems to consult - it must be the Continental way of doing business!

    Already we see a knee jerk reaction to the hostility to soften the transition or rather just to extend the period - typical Delcampe. And I doubt that their software is capable of adjusting to the latest transition change proposed to differentiate and calculate between 'old' and 'new' transactions from 1 September!

    The goodwill build up over many years has evaporated in a matter of an ill thought through price change. This damage will prove difficult to recover from.

    Alan Catherall
    [Hoatzinstamps]
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM
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    So, delcampe comes clean....this cut and paste is from delcampes post on twitter

    "more and more volume of these small items which costs us a lot of money and server capacity".

    Why not tackle bulk sellers of cheap used rubbish rather than punishing sellers with quality items at low value?
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM
    • #399128
    I sell plenty of used stamps and none of them are rubbish. Check out my 20,100 100% feedback to be sure.

    Tracy
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 5:03 PM
    • #399146
    Consolidation - I am with you on this point. Doesn't make any sense. There will be mass abandoning of the ship.

    I may be one of them. I'd rally hate to go, but this forces my hand.

    Tracy
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    Forgot to mention - they've changed the implementation date to 1 January 2013 for sales LISTED before 1 September so you'll have a bit more time to amend/move/increase the price of your sales.

    Link (http)
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 5:32 PM
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    I sell plenty of used stamps and none of them are rubbish. Check out my 20,100 100% feedback to be sure.

    Tracy
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 7:34 PM
    • #399222
    Hi Tracey,
    I'm not suggesting that used stamps are the problem, and you are right, you have some good stuff. It is the quality/quantity of duplicated and often unsaleable items that are the problem.

    This is the sort of stuff I mean...

    Link (http)

    Check it out, select 'least expensive' and have a look at page three. My understanding of the rules is that duplicates should be listed one at a time using the quantity function on delcampes lister. If all users did this the volume of such items would plummet!

    Incidentally there is another discussion goung on off-site, here

    Link (http)
  • tracy_barber
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    Hi Tracey,
    I'm not suggesting that used stamps are the problem, and you are right, you have some good stuff. It is the quality/quantity of duplicated and often unsaleable items that are the problem.

    This is the sort of stuff I mean...

    Link (http)

    Check it out, select 'least expensive' and have a look at page three. My understanding of the rules is that duplicates should be listed one at a time using the quantity function on delcampes lister. If all users did this the volume of such items would plummet!

    Incidentally there is another discussion goung on off-site, here

    Link (http)
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 8:03 PM
    • #399229
    Thanks for your kind reply.

    The multiple item "thingie" would only work with multiple photos. I send out exactly the stamp the buyer looks at - perfections & imperfections alike. Rarely I need to replace an item, but WYSIWYG.

    So, it's tough to use the "piece" process and tell everyone you have 10 copies to sell.

    I limit myself to 5 copies of any stamp, except if I miss a few now and then.

    I have posted a few stamps with different cancels on them. These are specialty items for those collecting that area. It is important to see those cancels. Each stamp has a $4 CV so they're not low ball items either. Some have sold, some not. I think that one I posted about 100 copies, each with a different depot or depot / year.

    Yes - there are some people who post 50 of the same thing. Others post large amounts of the same stamp for higher prices and then boast they have over a 1,000.000 items on sale. Sheesh...

    What is truly sad it that I was just gearing up for HEAVY SALES. For the past month 1/2, I have sold quite a bit on delcampe. A good portion of it were low cost items.

    Oh well, I can see some increase in $ for sales, but the rate they are to impose blows us small item sellers out of the water.

    Fortunately, I know my material well enough to create $1 or more "groupings". One has to sell over $1 to make ANYTHING by 1/1/13.

    Lessee ... $1 ... do they subtract the .18 USD first and then take 5.5% or do they take 5.5% of the $1 and then subtract the .18 USD? It would make a difference.

    By the time the money houses gouge you, $1 sale is only down to about .50 so you'll make .50 on a $1. Or less...

    Sigh...

    Tracy
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM
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    Hi Tracey,
    I'm not suggesting that used stamps are the problem, and you are right, you have some good stuff. It is the quality/quantity of duplicated and often unsaleable items that are the problem.

    This is the sort of stuff I mean...

    Link (http)

    Check it out, select 'least expensive' and have a look at page three. My understanding of the rules is that duplicates should be listed one at a time using the quantity function on delcampes lister. If all users did this the volume of such items would plummet!

    Incidentally there is another discussion goung on off-site, here

    Link (http)
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 8:03 PM
    • #399229
    Thanks for the link to the blog richnoddy.

    I've read this thread with great interest, and as I've bought from quite a few of you, I respect your opinions.

    It would seem that there is a clear buyer/seller divide here that may not have been considered by Seb? It seems that buyers (like me) see this as a good initiative and a start to clean out the poorly listed, poorly imaged, bulk uploads from dozens of sellers that make searching and browsing such a chore.

    It also seems that you agree that something needs to be done to improve the buying experience for customers. As Delcampe sellers, you must be aware that many collectors simply don't come here because of the mind-numbingly repetitive cheap listings?

    If we all want change, it will be up to you as a group to bring pressure to bear on Seb to find a way to remove the rubbish sellers (lazy, amateur sellers, not necessarily rubbish items) from Delcampe.

    Seb has listened to the buyers, make him listen to the sellers!

    Regards
    Dave
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 8:25 PM
    • #399231
    Steve, you can filter by price on the search bar on the left. It only searched by USD though, so I put in 0.01c to 0.10c, and it shows you have 2,792 sales in that range.

    Cheers
    Dave
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    Steve, you can filter by price on the search bar on the left. It only searched by USD though, so I put in 0.01c to 0.10c, and it shows you have 2,792 sales in that range.

    Cheers
    Dave
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM
    • #399238
    It allows searches in $ other than USD. I just checked it. If someone wants to bypass the .05 items they can do it quite easily.

    Maybe they're just too lazy to try... :)

    Tracy
  • globalphilately
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    It allows searches in $ other than USD. I just checked it. If someone wants to bypass the .05 items they can do it quite easily.

    Maybe they're just too lazy to try... :)

    Tracy
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 9:15 PM
    • #399241
    That's interesting. My drop down box only has USD in it :dunno:

    I filter them out in my searches (sadly, I never find what I want in that price bracket....), but clearly many people don't know the function exists!

    Cheers
    Dave
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  • globalphilately
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    That's interesting. My drop down box only has USD in it :dunno:

    I filter them out in my searches (sadly, I never find what I want in that price bracket....), but clearly many people don't know the function exists!

    Cheers
    Dave
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 9:20 PM
    • #399242
    Sorry to reply to my own post, but I could only sort by USD on Steve's listings, but a full drop-down box is available via my normal login

    Cheers
    Dave
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    Sorry to reply to my own post, but I could only sort by USD on Steve's listings, but a full drop-down box is available via my normal login

    Cheers
    Dave
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    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 10:03 PM
    • #399248
    Hey - not saying YOU are lazy, but the list box is there. Sometimes too much eye candy on the screen is distracting.

    Tracy
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    Hey - not saying YOU are lazy, but the list box is there. Sometimes too much eye candy on the screen is distracting.

    Tracy
    • Created on Aug 23, 2012 at 10:41 PM
    • #399249
    Not taken like that Tracy :cool:

    I agree that less is more sometimes

    Cheers
    Dave
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