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    Schweden

    And now how to be a seller from the countries of the former USSR? : o
    • Erstellt am 30.06.2021 um 16:01
    • #1300411
    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
  • klaus_schneider
    klaus_schneider 100% (84280x)
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    Deutschland

    Hello, the APHV (Association of German Postage Stamp Dealers) has commissioned a legal opinion on this subject. The key message from this report is that for commercial traders who only sell goods that are subject to differential taxation, no special measures are necessary. These traders do not have to register with the OSS, and the marketplace is not allowed to withhold any taxes for the sale of these products that are subject to differential taxation. For these products, the VAT is always paid in the country of the seller. There were also discussions with ebay on this topic, with the result that ebay wants to take this situation into account accordingly. In order for the matter to have an official character, however, the right way would be for Delcampe to contact the board of the APHV to compare the information.
  • klaus_schneider
    klaus_schneider 100% (84280x)
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    289 Beiträge

    Deutschland

    Hello, the APHV (Association of German Postage Stamp Dealers) has commissioned a legal opinion on this subject. The key message from this report is that for commercial traders who only sell goods that are subject to differential taxation, no special measures are necessary. These traders do not have to register with the OSS, and the marketplace is not allowed to withhold any taxes for the sale of these products that are subject to differential taxation. For these products, the VAT is always paid in the country of the seller. There were also discussions with ebay on this topic, with the result that ebay wants to take this situation into account accordingly. In order for the matter to have an official character, however, the right way would be for Delcampe to contact the board of the APHV to compare the information.
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    Schweden

    Hello, the APHV (Association of German Postage Stamp Dealers) has commissioned a legal opinion on this subject. The key message from this report is that for commercial traders who only sell goods that are subject to differential taxation, no special measures are necessary. These traders do not have to register with the OSS, and the marketplace is not allowed to withhold any taxes for the sale of these products that are subject to differential taxation. For these products, the VAT is always paid in the country of the seller. There were also discussions with ebay on this topic, with the result that ebay wants to take this situation into account accordingly. In order for the matter to have an official character, however, the right way would be for Delcampe to contact the board of the APHV to compare the information.
    • Erstellt am 30.06.2021 um 16:25
    • #1300426
    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
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    Schweden

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
    • Erstellt am 30.06.2021 um 16:35
    • #1300429
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    Schweden

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
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    Schweden

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
    • Erstellt am 30.06.2021 um 17:44
    • #1300444
    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
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    Schweden

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
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    Schweden

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
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    Schweden

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
  • dave43
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    Vereinigtes Königreich

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
    • Erstellt am 30.06.2021 um 18:45
    • #1300459
    Sorry, I saw the message from Delcampe and as usual didn't understand it! What does it mean to the ordinary collector and sometime seller of stuff (not a pro)? (Do I care?)
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    Schweden

    Sorry, I saw the message from Delcampe and as usual didn't understand it! What does it mean to the ordinary collector and sometime seller of stuff (not a pro)? (Do I care?)
    • Erstellt am 01.07.2021 um 04:37
    • #1300615
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    Vereinigtes Königreich

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
    • Erstellt am 01.07.2021 um 05:50
    • #1300675
    Thanks as always, nice to be reassured!
  • fan_at2
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    53 Beiträge

    Ukraine

    But what if the professional seller is unable to accept payment via Delcampe Pay from buyers?
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    Schweden

    But what if the professional seller is unable to accept payment via Delcampe Pay from buyers?
    • Erstellt am 01.07.2021 um 16:24
    • #1300912
    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
  • fan_at2
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    53 Beiträge

    Ukraine

    Maybe I wrote on the wrong topic. We are talking about this payment system for professional sellers.
  • @miranda
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    @miranda

    521 Beiträge

    Belgien

    But what if the professional seller is unable to accept payment via Delcampe Pay from buyers?
    • Erstellt am 01.07.2021 um 16:24
    • #1300912
    Hello,

    Delcampe can only collect VAT if Delcampe Pay is used as a mean of payment. If any other payment is used, then it is up to the seller to apply VAT and/or follow the custom declaration procedures. As the whole process may vary from country to country, each professional seller will have to check with the legal authorities in their country.

    Regards,
    Miranda
  • hoatzinstamps
    hoatzinstamps 100% (127842x)
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    1114 Beiträge

    Vereinigtes Königreich

    Hi everyone,

    please find here below more information on the new system.

    Delcampe has registered for IOSS and will provide our professional sellers a number to be mentioned on the importation form, informing the Customs that the VAT for importation has already been paid.

    Buyers can either choose to pay import costs directly to Delcampe (meaning the VAT of the country of the buyer + extra 5% administrative fees, not capped, but this will apply to shipments of maximum £135 only) via Delcampe Pay (and only Delcampe Pay) or to go through customs to potentially obtain a reduced rate. As you can see, buyers using Delcampe Pay and agreeing to pay importation costs through Delcampe will have two charges: one for the seller, and one for Delcampe.

    Regards,
    Miranda - Delcampe Customer Service
    • Erstellt am 21.06.2021 um 11:16
    • #1294027
    As far as I can see the Seller is being charged the import duties.
    The invoice to the EU buyer does not show the import duties.
    Net, the import duty deduction is being taken from the Delcampe PAY payment to the Seller.

    This just seems wrong.

    Plus I have not received anything to suggest that the duties have been paid.

    Further, I am not sure whether an EU buyer can pay by PAYPAL?

    Am I missing something or have I misunderstood your explanation?

    Alan Catherall
    [Hoatzinstamps]
  • stevehillstamps
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    Vereinigtes Königreich

    As far as I can see the Seller is being charged the import duties.
    The invoice to the EU buyer does not show the import duties.
    Net, the import duty deduction is being taken from the Delcampe PAY payment to the Seller.

    This just seems wrong.

    Plus I have not received anything to suggest that the duties have been paid.

    Further, I am not sure whether an EU buyer can pay by PAYPAL?

    Am I missing something or have I misunderstood your explanation?

    Alan Catherall
    [Hoatzinstamps]
    • Erstellt am 05.07.2021 um 04:24
    • #1301966
    This part of the process wasnt that clear to me in the examples given, and was wating for me or someone else to get a sale using this. I've had no EU sales all week which is unusual.

    How did you know that Delcampe had paid the duty? I'm surprised the printed invoice doesnt have anything on it such as "£x.xx VAT paid by Delcampe International SRL (IOSS XXXXXXXXXX)" as if the package gets opened by customs that is the first thing they would look for.

    My understanding is that an EU member can pay by paypal/bank transfer only if they opt out of Delcampe paying VAT. There is no method for Delcampe to guarantee the recovery of the VAT (And fee) paid otherwise. This is similar to the way the other site is doing it with Managed Payments.
  • Konto gelöscht
    Konto gelöscht

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    Schweden

    This part of the process wasnt that clear to me in the examples given, and was wating for me or someone else to get a sale using this. I've had no EU sales all week which is unusual.

    How did you know that Delcampe had paid the duty? I'm surprised the printed invoice doesnt have anything on it such as "£x.xx VAT paid by Delcampe International SRL (IOSS XXXXXXXXXX)" as if the package gets opened by customs that is the first thing they would look for.

    My understanding is that an EU member can pay by paypal/bank transfer only if they opt out of Delcampe paying VAT. There is no method for Delcampe to guarantee the recovery of the VAT (And fee) paid otherwise. This is similar to the way the other site is doing it with Managed Payments.
    • Erstellt am 05.07.2021 um 07:29
    • #1302083
    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
    board
  • hoatzinstamps
    hoatzinstamps 100% (127842x)
    PRO advanced

    1114 Beiträge

    Vereinigtes Königreich

    This part of the process wasnt that clear to me in the examples given, and was wating for me or someone else to get a sale using this. I've had no EU sales all week which is unusual.

    How did you know that Delcampe had paid the duty? I'm surprised the printed invoice doesnt have anything on it such as "£x.xx VAT paid by Delcampe International SRL (IOSS XXXXXXXXXX)" as if the package gets opened by customs that is the first thing they would look for.

    My understanding is that an EU member can pay by paypal/bank transfer only if they opt out of Delcampe paying VAT. There is no method for Delcampe to guarantee the recovery of the VAT (And fee) paid otherwise. This is similar to the way the other site is doing it with Managed Payments.
    • Erstellt am 05.07.2021 um 07:29
    • #1302083
    I received my first payments from EU buyers today.
    The confusing bit for me was that the payment amount less the Delcampe fee amount didn't tally with the amount paid. The advice didn't show that the import VAT & Delcampe fee had also been collected (and deducted). Net, I did get the amount that was due to me but it wasn't immediately obvious.

    I will have to change my procedures slightly as the delivery note once payment has been made shows the import VAT etc. that has been paid. And that needs to be sent with the stamps. Again, not obvious.

    Alan Catherall
    [Hoatzinstamps]
  • Konto gelöscht
    Konto gelöscht

    0 Beiträge

    Schweden

    As far as I can see the Seller is being charged the import duties.
    The invoice to the EU buyer does not show the import duties.
    Net, the import duty deduction is being taken from the Delcampe PAY payment to the Seller.

    This just seems wrong.

    Plus I have not received anything to suggest that the duties have been paid.

    Further, I am not sure whether an EU buyer can pay by PAYPAL?

    Am I missing something or have I misunderstood your explanation?

    Alan Catherall
    [Hoatzinstamps]
    • Erstellt am 05.07.2021 um 04:24
    • #1301966
    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
  • hoatzinstamps
    hoatzinstamps 100% (127842x)
    PRO advanced

    1114 Beiträge

    Vereinigtes Königreich

    Die Informationen sind nicht mehr verfügbar, da das Konto dieses Benutzers gelöscht wird (DSGVO-Grundverordnung).
    • Erstellt am 05.07.2021 um 08:07
    • #1302104
    I don't think that is Delcampe's intention.

    Alan Catherall
    [Hoatzinstamps]
  • @miranda
    Administrator
    @miranda

    521 Beiträge

    Belgien

    Hi everyone,

    If you have any specific question regarding the VAT collection in your account or about a specific invoice, we invite you to contact us through our contact form Link (https)
    It will be easier for us to respond to you personally and we'll be able to share with you details that we cannot share on this forum.

    Thank you.

    Miranda
    Delcampe Customer Service
  • stevehillstamps
    stevehillstamps 100% (14560x)
    PRO standard

    223 Beiträge

    Vereinigtes Königreich

    I received my first payments from EU buyers today.
    The confusing bit for me was that the payment amount less the Delcampe fee amount didn't tally with the amount paid. The advice didn't show that the import VAT & Delcampe fee had also been collected (and deducted). Net, I did get the amount that was due to me but it wasn't immediately obvious.

    I will have to change my procedures slightly as the delivery note once payment has been made shows the import VAT etc. that has been paid. And that needs to be sent with the stamps. Again, not obvious.

    Alan Catherall
    [Hoatzinstamps]
    • Erstellt am 05.07.2021 um 08:05
    • #1302101
    Thanks Alan, Will wait and see how it looks when my first order comes through. I dont normally print delivery notes etc until after payment so hopefully this will not be as bigger change for me.

    The important thing to avoid your customer paying VAT again is to get Delcampe's IOSS number from the slip into the customs form and electronic customs data.

    As baltija says this will then link to the tracking barcode or the barcode on the customs form. The receiving country can then scan the barcode, see that there is an IOSS number attached to the package and then clear it quickly without going through full customs checks - other than a occasional random fraud check at a guess.

    The other site is recommending using click and drop for this as post offices will not be inputting IOSS data as standard from handwritten customs declarations. Tamebay have stated that there may be a procedure at post offices, buit I've seen reports of issues with it already.

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