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I have a George 6th 1d pale colour stamp cancelled with a triangular mark with the upper case letters "KL" inside. Can anyone tell me something about this cancellation?
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Aangemaakt 2 mrt 2018 op 15:32 (#831053)
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A telegraph cancellation, almost certainly, KL being the town of origin code.

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A telegraph cancellation, almost certainly, KL being the town of origin code.

Aangemaakt 3 mrt 2018 op 05:11
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Many thanks for your reply. I have not heard of telegraph cancellations. Could you supply any more info?
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Malcolm (grandad-47)

Aangemaakt 3 mrt 2018 op 08:41 (#831311)
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Hi Malcolm,

Telegraphs (or telegrams, as they became known), were able to be sent from a main Post Office with the necessary equipment, usually one in each town of any size. Payment for the service was made by way of stamps affixed to telegraph forms, cost depending on distance, cancelled by a triangular 'telegraph' cancellation (to distinguish them from postal cancellations) with the town initials inside, in your case KL - probably Kilmarnock, I'd guess, but don't have the list of these.

The telegraph forms were supposed to be kept internally as an accounting verification for stamp usage and telegraph receipts and then destroyed, but like most other things a % 'got out' into the market!

Hope this is of use.

Sam

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moonstone

Hi Malcolm,

Telegraphs (or telegrams, as they became known), were able to be sent from a main Post Office with the necessary equipment, usually one in each town of any size. Payment for the service was made by way of stamps affixed to telegraph forms, cost depending on distance, cancelled by a triangular 'telegraph' cancellation (to distinguish them from postal cancellations) with the town initials inside, in your case KL - probably Kilmarnock, I'd guess, but don't have the list of these.

The telegraph forms were supposed to be kept internally as an accounting verification for stamp usage and telegraph receipts and then destroyed, but like most other things a % 'got out' into the market!

Hope this is of use.

Sam

Aangemaakt 3 mrt 2018 op 08:56
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I don't have a list of telegraph offices either but KL might be Kings Lynn

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I don't have a list of telegraph offices either but KL might be Kings Lynn

Aangemaakt 3 mrt 2018 op 09:44
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You could well be right, hadn't thought of that!

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moonstone

Hi Malcolm,

Telegraphs (or telegrams, as they became known), were able to be sent from a main Post Office with the necessary equipment, usually one in each town of any size. Payment for the service was made by way of stamps affixed to telegraph forms, cost depending on distance, cancelled by a triangular 'telegraph' cancellation (to distinguish them from postal cancellations) with the town initials inside, in your case KL - probably Kilmarnock, I'd guess, but don't have the list of these.

The telegraph forms were supposed to be kept internally as an accounting verification for stamp usage and telegraph receipts and then destroyed, but like most other things a % 'got out' into the market!

Hope this is of use.

Sam

Aangemaakt 3 mrt 2018 op 08:56
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Very many thanks for your interesting info.
Kind regards
Malcolm

Aangemaakt 3 mrt 2018 op 13:38 (#831449)
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I don't have a list of telegraph offices either but KL might be Kings Lynn

Aangemaakt 3 mrt 2018 op 09:44
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Hi Tony
Many thanks for your input
Kind regards
Malcolm

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Triangular postmarks have also been used a lot on reduced rate business mail. I believe that envelopes posted using this rate had to be unsealed and available for inspection. When inspected they were cancelled with a triangular frank. You will find many envelopes on delcampe and ebay with a triangular cancellation. The 1d rate would have applied any time between 1949 and 1957.

There should be some images attached to this which I have just grabbed off the two auction sites with apologies to everybody concerned..

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Triangular postmarks have also been used a lot on reduced rate business mail. I believe that envelopes posted using this rate had to be unsealed and available for inspection. When inspected they were cancelled with a triangular frank. You will find many envelopes on delcampe and ebay with a triangular cancellation. The 1d rate would have applied any time between 1949 and 1957.

There should be some images attached to this which I have just grabbed off the two auction sites with apologies to everybody concerned..

Aangemaakt 2 apr 2018 op 17:53
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Very many thanks for your very interesting answer. Is it significant that the three examples you offer are all sent to overseas addresses?
Regards
Malcolm

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grandad-47

Very many thanks for your very interesting answer. Is it significant that the three examples you offer are all sent to overseas addresses?
Regards
Malcolm

Aangemaakt 3 apr 2018 op 03:57
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Business mail rates to foreign destinations were minimal costing, only profitable with the volumes involved, so maybe they attracted greater scrutiny? Also, collectors probably take greater care to rescue foreign commercial mail from the bin, so people abroad help the survival rate of mail that would just be thrown out at home?