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  • dellfrog
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    HI
    Does anyone know how to suspend all sales for a period of time and then to reopen those sales so that they do not all end at the same time?
    I have asked delcampe this several times but have never had a proper answer other than once when they said it makes no difference at all if they all end at the same time! Not much help there then- it makes a massive difference if you have 5000 items all ending at the same exact time on the same day.
    Urgent help would be appreciated
    kind regards
    dellfrog
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    HI
    Does anyone know how to suspend all sales for a period of time and then to reopen those sales so that they do not all end at the same time?
    I have asked delcampe this several times but have never had a proper answer other than once when they said it makes no difference at all if they all end at the same time! Not much help there then- it makes a massive difference if you have 5000 items all ending at the same exact time on the same day.
    Urgent help would be appreciated
    kind regards
    dellfrog
    • Erstellt am 09.10.2013 um 03:41
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  • dellfrog
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    • Erstellt am 09.10.2013 um 08:01
    • #467585
    HI
    I knew all of what you have said and have done that before but when you restatrtt it restarts them all with the same finishing time instaed of continuing with the previous finishing times. Now you have 5000 items all finishing at once that nobody could possibly look through!
    This has been an ongoing problem that I have never had an answer to solve.
    Kind regards
    dellfrog

  • mainlypostcards
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    HI
    I knew all of what you have said and have done that before but when you restatrtt it restarts them all with the same finishing time instaed of continuing with the previous finishing times. Now you have 5000 items all finishing at once that nobody could possibly look through!
    This has been an ongoing problem that I have never had an answer to solve.
    Kind regards
    dellfrog

    • Erstellt am 10.10.2013 um 03:48
    • #467707
    I replied to your post on the same topic in the philately forum: Link (http)

    When selling fixed price/Buy it now there is absolutely no difference whether your items end all at different times or at the same time. How many sales have you made seconds before closing time of your items?

    If you were selling in auction format you MIGHT have a point, but there is no issue at all for fixed price.
  • dellfrog
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    I replied to your post on the same topic in the philately forum: Link (http)

    When selling fixed price/Buy it now there is absolutely no difference whether your items end all at different times or at the same time. How many sales have you made seconds before closing time of your items?

    If you were selling in auction format you MIGHT have a point, but there is no issue at all for fixed price.
    • Erstellt am 10.10.2013 um 06:22
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    HI
    How do people even know I exist if all my items are listed at the same moment?
    I agree they can find my items by searching for a particular item but having 5000 listings at all different times at least gives buyers the chance of finding you as a seller! Why bother to have auction ending times at all according to your theory.
    What I can tell you is that eaxh time I have spread the ending times out from the 50000 finishing in one go - my sales have increased!
    Kind regards
    dellfrog
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    HI
    How do people even know I exist if all my items are listed at the same moment?
    I agree they can find my items by searching for a particular item but having 5000 listings at all different times at least gives buyers the chance of finding you as a seller! Why bother to have auction ending times at all according to your theory.
    What I can tell you is that eaxh time I have spread the ending times out from the 50000 finishing in one go - my sales have increased!
    Kind regards
    dellfrog
    • Erstellt am 12.10.2013 um 04:25
    • #468112
    Why would people find your listings easier if they all end at different times?

    And indeed, for fixed price sales, there is no need for an ending time - "Run until sold" would do.

    Read my response to your post on this thread: Link (http)

    Due to the way the search/browsing works on Delcampe it makes no difference. In order to be visible as a seller, you need to list on a regular basis.
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    Philippinen

    Why would people find your listings easier if they all end at different times?

    And indeed, for fixed price sales, there is no need for an ending time - "Run until sold" would do.

    Read my response to your post on this thread: Link (http)

    Due to the way the search/browsing works on Delcampe it makes no difference. In order to be visible as a seller, you need to list on a regular basis.
    • Erstellt am 12.10.2013 um 04:39
    • #468114
    Yes, I concur with that. For me, it is not very viable to continually bulk-relist things that are not selling,

    I have found over the last few years that if I list a few genuinely new items in country x then many other much older items from country x plus other countries tend to be sold......presumably the new listing directs purchasers to my shop.

    But I have to say that due to the bulk re-lisings im '000 s regularly carried out by some large sellers, my new listings soon disappear into oblivion especially if they are for a country with 20,000+ items and no sub-categories.

    Surely its time for D to re-think the methodology of their listing etc policy as the present system is pretty archaic and, with the growth of the site, can only become more and more geriatric.

    Yes, I know that this subject is spread across several threads, but I live in the forlorn hope that someone, somewhere in the Delcampe domain might be open-minded enough to consider all possibilities. Unless, of course, the powers that be have already concluded that nothing needs to change in this respect that could benefit the site, its buyers and sellers
  • mainlypostcards
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    Yes, I concur with that. For me, it is not very viable to continually bulk-relist things that are not selling,

    I have found over the last few years that if I list a few genuinely new items in country x then many other much older items from country x plus other countries tend to be sold......presumably the new listing directs purchasers to my shop.

    But I have to say that due to the bulk re-lisings im '000 s regularly carried out by some large sellers, my new listings soon disappear into oblivion especially if they are for a country with 20,000+ items and no sub-categories.

    Surely its time for D to re-think the methodology of their listing etc policy as the present system is pretty archaic and, with the growth of the site, can only become more and more geriatric.

    Yes, I know that this subject is spread across several threads, but I live in the forlorn hope that someone, somewhere in the Delcampe domain might be open-minded enough to consider all possibilities. Unless, of course, the powers that be have already concluded that nothing needs to change in this respect that could benefit the site, its buyers and sellers
    • Erstellt am 12.10.2013 um 06:01
    • #468132
    I remember the days when I could list in the morning and in the evening (peak browsing time), they would still be on the first page in their respective categories. Alas, nowadays with all the regular relists that go on that is no longer the case - unless of course potential buyers have those sellers blacklisted. Most of the time they've disappeared off the first page within hours of listing.

    I suppose there are pro's and con's for both methods of displaying search results.

    In principle the Delcampe system would be ideal, because if you regularly check certain categories or do the same searches, you see new items first and potentially you would not be interested in the older items. However, this has led to the relisting situation we are facing, due to sellers wanting to have their items at the top of the list.

    If the default would be "ending soonest" first, these sellers would not have the need to keep relisting the same old stuff, but the buyers would see all the same old stuff again and again.
  • dellfrog
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    Why would people find your listings easier if they all end at different times?

    And indeed, for fixed price sales, there is no need for an ending time - "Run until sold" would do.

    Read my response to your post on this thread: Link (http)

    Due to the way the search/browsing works on Delcampe it makes no difference. In order to be visible as a seller, you need to list on a regular basis.
    • Erstellt am 12.10.2013 um 04:39
    • #468114
    HI -I did read your response but it is obvious that if my 5000 items appear at different times on listings showing based on ending times then 5000 different ending times is better than just one ending time. In fact with all the items ending at the same time a buyer would not even be able to look through the items befor they all ended. I agree entirely that ending times make no difference when a buyer finds you by search but it may well do if he searches by ending soonest or is actually watching all items ending.
    I guess thats why so many people constantly relist their items so they constantly appear in "newly listed" but thats not really good for the site is it?
    Anyway thanks for your help
    kind regards
    dellfrog
  • briceropion
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    HI -I did read your response but it is obvious that if my 5000 items appear at different times on listings showing based on ending times then 5000 different ending times is better than just one ending time. In fact with all the items ending at the same time a buyer would not even be able to look through the items befor they all ended. I agree entirely that ending times make no difference when a buyer finds you by search but it may well do if he searches by ending soonest or is actually watching all items ending.
    I guess thats why so many people constantly relist their items so they constantly appear in "newly listed" but thats not really good for the site is it?
    Anyway thanks for your help
    kind regards
    dellfrog
    • Erstellt am 12.10.2013 um 06:31
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    Hi Dellfrog,
    As a gold member you have the possibility of making "multiple changes" at any time to the ending times of all or some of your items.
    See my delcampe>sell>multiple changes and then select the option you want.
    Best regards,
    Brice
  • dellfrog
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    Hi Dellfrog,
    As a gold member you have the possibility of making "multiple changes" at any time to the ending times of all or some of your items.
    See my delcampe>sell>multiple changes and then select the option you want.
    Best regards,
    Brice
    • Erstellt am 12.10.2013 um 11:34
    • #468194
    HI
    Thanks for response, Sure but that does not help because with 5000 items it still requires mass same ending times as against individual ending times. I used that on previous breaks but it still does not allow items just to re-end where they left off.
    Kind regards
    dellfrog
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    Philippinen

    I remember the days when I could list in the morning and in the evening (peak browsing time), they would still be on the first page in their respective categories. Alas, nowadays with all the regular relists that go on that is no longer the case - unless of course potential buyers have those sellers blacklisted. Most of the time they've disappeared off the first page within hours of listing.

    I suppose there are pro's and con's for both methods of displaying search results.

    In principle the Delcampe system would be ideal, because if you regularly check certain categories or do the same searches, you see new items first and potentially you would not be interested in the older items. However, this has led to the relisting situation we are facing, due to sellers wanting to have their items at the top of the list.

    If the default would be "ending soonest" first, these sellers would not have the need to keep relisting the same old stuff, but the buyers would see all the same old stuff again and again.
    • Erstellt am 12.10.2013 um 06:19
    • #468137
    Yes, you are right, I started on D a few months after you but did not use it that much till 2010.

    I accept your point about the "ending soonest" drawbacks,

    Some newer sites are catalogue based (both stamp sites and collectable sites) and the search is by lowest price rather than ending soonest or newest listing. Usually works well with exceptions for uncatalogued or unusual items etc. and new or revised items are highlighted but not put first.

    I am not suggesting this as something D should change to but only to consider whether some aspects can be integrated into the existing system.

    Many of these sites are gaining in popularity with both sellers and buyers presumably at the expense of the established majors,

    I am sure that the technically able minds at Delcampe could conjure up a system that uses the best of all the available search systems without necessarily scrapping the existing software. takes time and effort of course but presumably D wishes to retain its pre-eminent position?
  • dellfrog
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    Yes, you are right, I started on D a few months after you but did not use it that much till 2010.

    I accept your point about the "ending soonest" drawbacks,

    Some newer sites are catalogue based (both stamp sites and collectable sites) and the search is by lowest price rather than ending soonest or newest listing. Usually works well with exceptions for uncatalogued or unusual items etc. and new or revised items are highlighted but not put first.

    I am not suggesting this as something D should change to but only to consider whether some aspects can be integrated into the existing system.

    Many of these sites are gaining in popularity with both sellers and buyers presumably at the expense of the established majors,

    I am sure that the technically able minds at Delcampe could conjure up a system that uses the best of all the available search systems without necessarily scrapping the existing software. takes time and effort of course but presumably D wishes to retain its pre-eminent position?
    • Erstellt am 12.10.2013 um 23:44
    • #468249
    Hi to all
    Many thanks for your responses and they are appreciated.
    I guess I will just have to modify the ending times as i did before.
    Thanks
    dellfrog