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  • Picturepostcardsonline
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    Royaume-Uni

    It would be useful to see what people had sold in April to see how the shop fee would work and maybe correspond the sales from March to make a comparison. I had 38 sales in March … in April up to now I’ve had 13 plus 2 with bids. Maybe there will be a rush in the last 4 days of April. Incidentally looking through my oldest sales from 2020 I made many sales from these cards last year and many more on 2021 and 2022 listings but they will have to be removed to get the shop fees down to a realistic level on declining sales. I would hope for better sales in May but I doubt it as I will be closing around 9000 to move elsewhere.
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    Thaïlande

    Where will you move to? Any recommendations?
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    Where will you move to? Any recommendations?
    • Posté le 26 avr. 2024 à 10:34
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    I still list some new good postcards on the biggest selling site usually just one 10 day run. The rest will go on Ebid. I don’t really want to but I won’t have much choice if sales don’t pick up. As Mr Delcampe says times are tough for the sales of collectibles but it’s tough for the host, buyer and seller.
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    Royaume-Uni

    Just adding to the first post, I sold a card listed in August 2021 today so that’s another that would have been closed next month.
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    Thaïlande

    I just took a look at Ebid. I asked their chatbot if old vintage passports are allowed. Then they want to charge me $5 to chat with an expert! LoL :D
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    I just took a look at Ebid. I asked their chatbot if old vintage passports are allowed. Then they want to charge me $5 to chat with an expert! LoL :D
    • Posté le 26 avr. 2024 à 22:07
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    I have clients with ebid account. On 4 clients the total sales in 2 years is 3 stamps !
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    Thaïlande

    I have clients with ebid account. On 4 clients the total sales in 2 years is 3 stamps !
    • Posté le 27 avr. 2024 à 02:34
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    Yeah, I guess Ebid is nothing for me either.
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    Royaume-Uni

    When I first started on Delcampe I remember listing about 1000 postcards before things slowly started moving. I know another member of Delcampe has been moving things over and has made sales. The site wouldn't exist if nothing sold, I agree it will be slow but been based in the UK sales into Europe on Delcampe have now collapsed due to import fees and now buyers fees so not much is selling anyway and Delcampe is mainly Europe based.
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    As a private seller, I only sell occasionally but my impression sale quantity indeed went down over time. We can't blame DC for the whole picture. It's the economy, and hence also the collectors market. Vintage passports is anyway a very specific Ephemera niche with significantly lower market share compared to postcard, stamps, or banknotes.

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    I still list some new good postcards on the biggest selling site usually just one 10 day run. The rest will go on Ebid. I don’t really want to but I won’t have much choice if sales don’t pick up. As Mr Delcampe says times are tough for the sales of collectibles but it’s tough for the host, buyer and seller.
    • Posté le 26 avr. 2024 à 11:01
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    Hello,
    I have a store on Ebid since 2008 (same seller ID) and have sold a total of 140 covers. Ebid do not promote their site. You have to do your own promotion, mostly through your current buyers. Their rates are super low, but not much help it nothing sells.
    praeteritum
  • stevehillstamps
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    Royaume-Uni

    April was actually better than March for me. Most of the sales were in the first week or two including some last minute sales before the new fees came in.

    The week after the new fees went ok (I discounted by the old fees immediately) but things have dropped like a stone since then. I'm not sure if delcampe advertised the discount to any watchers, and that may explain the post fee increase blip.
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    April was actually better than March for me. Most of the sales were in the first week or two including some last minute sales before the new fees came in.

    The week after the new fees went ok (I discounted by the old fees immediately) but things have dropped like a stone since then. I'm not sure if delcampe advertised the discount to any watchers, and that may explain the post fee increase blip.
    • Posté le 2 mai 2024 à 08:14
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    I suspect that many buyers initially didn't realize anything had changed. This could be because they don't read the emails, aren't on the forum or even an increase in the price of e.g. 2 euros to 2.50 euros not even noticed. But then they somehow discover this change or they just feel it. They now look elsewhere and when they notice that it is cheaper there, they stay there. That would explain the significant decline (for me over the past week - 8 sales since April 22nd, last year 8 to 10 sales per day).
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    For my clients the average loss is 40/50% compared to April 2023
    The idea of switch sales fees to buyers was a very bad idea

    I hope D* change their mind
  • moonstone
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    Royaume-Uni

    My sales are down just over 50%, even after adding back what my gross sales would have been before I deducted the costs added to my sales prices under the old system.

    My viewer numbers are down 27% and the number of items viewed by 18% ( from Flagcounter statistics), perhaps an early sign that buyers have already 'voted with their feet'

    From Delcampe's perspective, their fees received, ie, what I paid in fees in March against what they received from my buyers in April, are down 36%, and than is obviously including their enhanced fees.

    If those numbers are reflected by others, then Delcampe have badly misjudged the prospective income from their changes.
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    My sales are down just over 50%, even after adding back what my gross sales would have been before I deducted the costs added to my sales prices under the old system.

    My viewer numbers are down 27% and the number of items viewed by 18% ( from Flagcounter statistics), perhaps an early sign that buyers have already 'voted with their feet'

    From Delcampe's perspective, their fees received, ie, what I paid in fees in March against what they received from my buyers in April, are down 36%, and than is obviously including their enhanced fees.

    If those numbers are reflected by others, then Delcampe have badly misjudged the prospective income from their changes.
    • Posté le 2 mai 2024 à 09:45
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    I also think they miscalculated. One could assume that this will be offset by the increase in fees from Delcampe's point of view. But you shouldn't look at it that way, because the increase was there in order to use the additional percent to pay the fees for Mangopay. So revenues at Delcampe itself may actually have fallen.
  • moonstone
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    Royaume-Uni

    I also think they miscalculated. One could assume that this will be offset by the increase in fees from Delcampe's point of view. But you shouldn't look at it that way, because the increase was there in order to use the additional percent to pay the fees for Mangopay. So revenues at Delcampe itself may actually have fallen.
    • Posté le 2 mai 2024 à 10:17
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    I can't see otherwise than that they must have fallen, anbody who comments, both here and on the French forum, are coming up with the roughly same numbers for sales decline. Delcampe probably, as you say, anticipated a small drop, which would be made up for by their increased fees, but not at this level.

    We will see what Delcampe come up with, do they 'tough it out' for a period of time in the hope that buyers will relent and come back to buy at the greater cost to them? If so, how long can that go on for? Is there an alternative plan?

    The impending introduction of store fees for sellers will give them an increase in income, but will that make up the deficit? In my case based on last month, certainly not. At this rate, expect those fees to start very soon!
  • Picturepostcardsonline
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    Royaume-Uni

    Yes sales are down but things are still selling... 12 in the first 8 days of May. I thought I would carry on listing as usual so I can make a clear comparison and decide when I can see how things are going if I close sales to drop under 10000 listings. Most of my sales come from new listings so if you are not listing its another small reason for a decline.
  • mjocovers
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    Royaume-Uni

    Sales are down, but what is more significant for me is that lower bid offers have fallen off a cliff. I used to get a few a week, and made some decent
    bulk sales from them, but I haven't had one since 10 April.
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    Sales are down, but what is more significant for me is that lower bid offers have fallen off a cliff. I used to get a few a week, and made some decent
    bulk sales from them, but I haven't had one since 10 April.
    • Posté le 9 mai 2024 à 06:49
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    The lower bid system is so annoying.
    I've had several this month and accepted one. The ability to set a level as before was a much better system 20% up to 50% offers are ridiculous and waste everybody's time. I've dropped prices by 5% to start with so I only look over the email to see if there are any realistic offers. Which there are usually none. With the buyers paying the fees they are trying to offset in the lower bids and I don't blame them.
  • mjocovers
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    Royaume-Uni

    The lower bid system is so annoying.
    I've had several this month and accepted one. The ability to set a level as before was a much better system 20% up to 50% offers are ridiculous and waste everybody's time. I've dropped prices by 5% to start with so I only look over the email to see if there are any realistic offers. Which there are usually none. With the buyers paying the fees they are trying to offset in the lower bids and I don't blame them.
    • Posté le 9 mai 2024 à 08:03
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    There need to be flexibility with Lower Bid so sellers can choose what suits them.
    Much to my surprise broadening the % initially led to decent sales of stuff that had been listed for quite a while, so I don't mind it, but it shouldn't be compulsory for sellers to allow it.

    I'd like a return of the option to allow lower bids (at least on Buy it Now listings) immediately an item goes on sale, and not wait a month. I understand that some sellers would find that annoying, but for me it used to generate group bids that got rid of older items as a reasonable overall price., so I'd at least like there to be that option for those sellers who wish to do it.
  • greggm
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    Royaume-Uni

    As a private seller, I only sell occasionally but my impression sale quantity indeed went down over time. We can't blame DC for the whole picture. It's the economy, and hence also the collectors market. Vintage passports is anyway a very specific Ephemera niche with significantly lower market share compared to postcard, stamps, or banknotes.

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    • Posté le 27 avr. 2024 à 03:47
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    I have been selling stamps on here for about eight years. In all that time I cannot remember a day when I did not sell something or at least took a bid. During that time I have sold about 19,000 items. Since the introduction of the new pricing structure my sales have almost dried up with about 10 sales this month. I have not had a sale in the last week and currently have three items with bids. My income will not cover the delcampe fees this month and no sign it will pick up. Is Delcampe under financial pressure or were they just being greedy. With the state of the world as it is I think an increase somewhere could have been expected and we would have just lived with it but this seems to be a kiss of death. The accounting system is terrible with the seller looking like their income is going to be inflated by including the buyers fees. The buyers are just seeing inflated prices, I know someone suggested reducing our price to keep the total asking price down but why should we. If delcampe is keeping track of the forums then I implore them to think again. This is killing what seemed to be a good site. Act now before it is too late.
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    The complete silence from all the Delcampe staff is astonishing. Did they all go to Madagascar with the boss to celebrate his birthday?
    The ridiculous thing is that I have two customers who have been waiting for the API key since more than 8 days and no one responds to the requests.
    Luckily my clients' sales on eBay is business as usual
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    I have been selling stamps on here for about eight years. In all that time I cannot remember a day when I did not sell something or at least took a bid. During that time I have sold about 19,000 items. Since the introduction of the new pricing structure my sales have almost dried up with about 10 sales this month. I have not had a sale in the last week and currently have three items with bids. My income will not cover the delcampe fees this month and no sign it will pick up. Is Delcampe under financial pressure or were they just being greedy. With the state of the world as it is I think an increase somewhere could have been expected and we would have just lived with it but this seems to be a kiss of death. The accounting system is terrible with the seller looking like their income is going to be inflated by including the buyers fees. The buyers are just seeing inflated prices, I know someone suggested reducing our price to keep the total asking price down but why should we. If delcampe is keeping track of the forums then I implore them to think again. This is killing what seemed to be a good site. Act now before it is too late.
    • Posté le 13 mai 2024 à 08:53
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    It's astonishing how many seasoned professional sellers are experiencing a significant decrease in sales. As I mentioned in my article, the shift from commission-based earnings to platform-based fees is "elegant" for DC. This change will boost DC's revenue, but sellers may quickly leave if their profit margins shrink. Therefore, the question remains: Delcampe - where are you heading? :whiteflag:
  • Picturepostcardsonline
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    Royaume-Uni

    I have been looking over my sales over the past 4 years when I started and my average monthly fee was around £40.00 a month. Over the last 18 months its been nearer £20.00 and more recently below that so there indeed is a big decline in the general collectibles market. Delcampe must have a plan to keep a good business model as times are changing but they need to be careful not to alienate sellers and buyers. I can see what they are trying to do but its a big risk in the present climate. When I look at the problem with selling into Europe from the UK and the added charges by Delcampe to the buyer, my accountancy cost which is almost as much as my main business, and postage rates shooting up I think I'm at the end of selling postcards anywhere so I will be shutting up shortly on all platforms. It's not my main business but it's now taking more and more time and its becoming more of a problem with too little profit to buy good new stock. I've been obsessed with postcards for 40 + years so I will miss the selling and buying.

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