Scanning Postcards - is there a better way?

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    • Created on Feb 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM
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    Serendipity, what a beautiful thing.

    Boxer rebellion, cloud seeding, etc, etc...
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    Serendipity, what a beautiful thing.

    Boxer rebellion, cloud seeding, etc, etc...
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    Is it not symptomatic of our curious natures that threads never seem to stay on-topic for more than about three postings?

    Serendipity or rambling?
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    Is it not symptomatic of our curious natures that threads never seem to stay on-topic for more than about three postings?

    Serendipity or rambling?
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    • Created on Feb 4, 2011 at 4:07 AM
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    "it is amazing how many don't bother to categorise them at all, just put Unknown or its equivalent."

    I have recently become a moderator - specialized area UK postcards. Frankly it is quite shocking how many sellers there are who simply can't be bothered to put their items in the correct category. Some foreign sellers just dump everything that is not their own country in other&unclassified in every foreign country. There are also a few UK sellers who can't even be bothered to put their UK postcards in the correct category - their title often mentions the correct county, but they still list in "other & unclassified".

    As others have said on this thread, actually finding out where a town/village is, is part of the process and it's actually good fun trying to figure out where xxx is.
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    • Created on Feb 4, 2011 at 11:58 AM
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    I don't know what you're talking about :wink2: :p
    It's been a while since we've both been posting on the same forum.

    In the meanwhile, poor OP is getting all those notification of new forum messages for their thread, which have nothing to do with their original question anymore.
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    I don't know what you're talking about :wink2: :p
    It's been a while since we've both been posting on the same forum.

    In the meanwhile, poor OP is getting all those notification of new forum messages for their thread, which have nothing to do with their original question anymore.
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    • Created on Feb 5, 2011 at 10:35 AM
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    I think we are all in the same boat there. We all have to look up places.
    As far as N. America is concerned, I can just about cope with the major cities, but anything else I have to look up. The same applies for most of Europe and Africa and as far as Asia is concerned I am at a complete loss. It's only really England (as opposed to United Kingdom) and Netherlands where I can most of the time get away without having to look up things and I am getting better at Belgium and France. Scotland and Wales are a nightmare as far as I am concerned.
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    I think we are all in the same boat there. We all have to look up places.
    As far as N. America is concerned, I can just about cope with the major cities, but anything else I have to look up. The same applies for most of Europe and Africa and as far as Asia is concerned I am at a complete loss. It's only really England (as opposed to United Kingdom) and Netherlands where I can most of the time get away without having to look up things and I am getting better at Belgium and France. Scotland and Wales are a nightmare as far as I am concerned.
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    If you or anyone else is fazed by Scotland or Wales just get in touch with me and I'll do my best to point you to the right county - it really doesn't help that both countries went toward general regions

    For instance, Strathclyde in Scotland brought together eight counties, then following abolition in 1996 was split into 12 unitary council areas each named after former counties

    No wonder we get confused! It would have been a great help to everyone concerned if they hadn't messed about with the counties in the first place (and probably saved a lot of money into the bargain)
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    If you or anyone else is fazed by Scotland or Wales just get in touch with me and I'll do my best to point you to the right county - it really doesn't help that both countries went toward general regions

    For instance, Strathclyde in Scotland brought together eight counties, then following abolition in 1996 was split into 12 unitary council areas each named after former counties

    No wonder we get confused! It would have been a great help to everyone concerned if they hadn't messed about with the counties in the first place (and probably saved a lot of money into the bargain)
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    My personal view is that cards should be listed in the county where the town/village is now. I know there are different views about this and I respect everyone's views and I don't want to turn this into an argument. The problem with Wales and Scotland is, that those current "counties" (i.e. Powys, Gwynedd sp?, Highlands, etc.) don't exist as categories and sometimes it's impossible to find the historic county.

    As I stated in an earlier post, if I can't find the right category for a Welsh pc, I tend to check one particular sellers' listings; failing that I go with the majority or opt for "unknown" or "other".
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    My personal view is that cards should be listed in the county where the town/village is now. I know there are different views about this and I respect everyone's views and I don't want to turn this into an argument. The problem with Wales and Scotland is, that those current "counties" (i.e. Powys, Gwynedd sp?, Highlands, etc.) don't exist as categories and sometimes it's impossible to find the historic county.

    As I stated in an earlier post, if I can't find the right category for a Welsh pc, I tend to check one particular sellers' listings; failing that I go with the majority or opt for "unknown" or "other".
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    My personal view is that cards should be listed in the county where the town/village is now. I know there are different views about this and I respect everyone's views and I don't want to turn this into an argument. The problem with Wales and Scotland is, that those current "counties" (i.e. Powys, Gwynedd sp?, Highlands, etc.) don't exist as categories and sometimes it's impossible to find the historic county.

    As I stated in an earlier post, if I can't find the right category for a Welsh pc, I tend to check one particular sellers' listings; failing that I go with the majority or opt for "unknown" or "other".
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    My personal view is that cards should be listed in the county where the town/village is now. I know there are different views about this and I respect everyone's views and I don't want to turn this into an argument. The problem with Wales and Scotland is, that those current "counties" (i.e. Powys, Gwynedd sp?, Highlands, etc.) don't exist as categories and sometimes it's impossible to find the historic county.

    As I stated in an earlier post, if I can't find the right category for a Welsh pc, I tend to check one particular sellers' listings; failing that I go with the majority or opt for "unknown" or "other".
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    Yes, yes, but IN WHICH county should I scan my postcards, and how quickly should I be able to scan them???? Will my cards scan faster in some counties than others?!

    ... pulling mightily on heavy rope tied to this thread and OP's request, to get back on track (well, not really) :D

    On another site some stamp folks were chatting about a software program that would scan and crop multiple items in just one scan of the glass - Data Becker Photo Scanner. Unfortunately, it's not available in North America anymore, but still available in UK. Apparently some new scanners will do this. I don't have one but end up with say 3 cards on the glass and scanner passes over glass 3 times to make a copy of each.

    Anyone know of any other software or fixes that would allow me to scan multiple cards with just one pass over the scanner glass?

    I think that would cut some serious time off scanning.

    Continue with your counties discussion... :wink2:
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    Yes, yes, but IN WHICH county should I scan my postcards, and how quickly should I be able to scan them???? Will my cards scan faster in some counties than others?!

    ... pulling mightily on heavy rope tied to this thread and OP's request, to get back on track (well, not really) :D

    On another site some stamp folks were chatting about a software program that would scan and crop multiple items in just one scan of the glass - Data Becker Photo Scanner. Unfortunately, it's not available in North America anymore, but still available in UK. Apparently some new scanners will do this. I don't have one but end up with say 3 cards on the glass and scanner passes over glass 3 times to make a copy of each.

    Anyone know of any other software or fixes that would allow me to scan multiple cards with just one pass over the scanner glass?

    I think that would cut some serious time off scanning.

    Continue with your counties discussion... :wink2:
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    • Created on Feb 5, 2011 at 1:53 PM
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    It doesn't take me a lot of time, but the time the scanner mechanically scans is where the "delay" is. Saving a cycle of even 30 seconds for a batch of 3-4 cards would add up quickly over 100s or 1000s of cards, I'm figuring.

    Truth be told, I'd probably revert to what I do now. Comfort zone and all that. As it is, scanning is not all that onerous, easy to do while doing something else. I compare it to grandmother's knitting while watching tv or chatting, becomes second nature. Of course, I've got to sell the postcards to get a sweater or pair of socks out of it!

    If these items weren't so delicate, it'd be nice to have a feeder or stacker to place cards in one end of scanner, auto scan, and see them come flying out the other end like a salad shooter!

    Pipe dreams...
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    It doesn't take me a lot of time, but the time the scanner mechanically scans is where the "delay" is. Saving a cycle of even 30 seconds for a batch of 3-4 cards would add up quickly over 100s or 1000s of cards, I'm figuring.

    Truth be told, I'd probably revert to what I do now. Comfort zone and all that. As it is, scanning is not all that onerous, easy to do while doing something else. I compare it to grandmother's knitting while watching tv or chatting, becomes second nature. Of course, I've got to sell the postcards to get a sweater or pair of socks out of it!

    If these items weren't so delicate, it'd be nice to have a feeder or stacker to place cards in one end of scanner, auto scan, and see them come flying out the other end like a salad shooter!

    Pipe dreams...
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    Oii! Have you been watching me? Not quite a granny yet, but I do knit while watching tv. :oops:

    As for scanning, I have a Canon CanoScan 8600F, which will "multiscan", i.e. if I put 4 objects on there I will end up with 4 cropped files in a single scan. However, I don't like using it, because it crops very tightly and I like to have a margin around my postcards, which clearly shows the edge of the card and any minor wear/damage.
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    Oii! Have you been watching me? Not quite a granny yet, but I do knit while watching tv. :oops:

    As for scanning, I have a Canon CanoScan 8600F, which will "multiscan", i.e. if I put 4 objects on there I will end up with 4 cropped files in a single scan. However, I don't like using it, because it crops very tightly and I like to have a margin around my postcards, which clearly shows the edge of the card and any minor wear/damage.
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    Hi, Mainly,

    OK, that's why I don't use auto scan too. I preview scan, then add a crop to each card leaving space away from edges and corners like you. Still takes an individual pass over the glass per card plus 1 for preview of all. I'm happy enough with that process - just scared I might be missing out on some efficiencies.

    I will now listen to the soothing sound of my scanner at work....
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    Hi, Mainly,

    OK, that's why I don't use auto scan too. I preview scan, then add a crop to each card leaving space away from edges and corners like you. Still takes an individual pass over the glass per card plus 1 for preview of all. I'm happy enough with that process - just scared I might be missing out on some efficiencies.

    I will now listen to the soothing sound of my scanner at work....
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    And I'm about to do the same....

    Wheee! Whirrr!
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    Hi, Mainly,

    OK, that's why I don't use auto scan too. I preview scan, then add a crop to each card leaving space away from edges and corners like you. Still takes an individual pass over the glass per card plus 1 for preview of all. I'm happy enough with that process - just scared I might be missing out on some efficiencies.

    I will now listen to the soothing sound of my scanner at work....
    • Created on Feb 5, 2011 at 2:24 PM
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    If that means one scan for preview and then 2, 3 or 4 scans to get each image, you might be better off to scan whatever fits on the glass (depending on card size) and then crop them in a graphics programme. That's what I do.
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    If that means one scan for preview and then 2, 3 or 4 scans to get each image, you might be better off to scan whatever fits on the glass (depending on card size) and then crop them in a graphics programme. That's what I do.
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    If that means one scan for preview and then 2, 3 or 4 scans to get each image, you might be better off to scan whatever fits on the glass (depending on card size) and then crop them in a graphics programme. That's what I do.
    • Created on Feb 5, 2011 at 2:28 PM
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    Ah!

    This just in! Quick time & motion study suggests my present method is 20-25 seconds faster than cropping in a graphics programme. Not much in it. One small additional advantage of setting the batch & scanning individual cards is I can go check to see dinner isn't burning!

    Of course, one should never scan & cook at the same time. This experiment was conducted in a sealed off kitchen by a scanner stuntsman and chef under expert supervision (Public Service Announcement ends)
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    • Created on Feb 5, 2011 at 2:41 PM
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    I scan at 150 dpi, which after cropping gives me files of between 90 and 150 kb depending on how busy the image is. This is well within the max 200kb specified by Delcampe (although they will let you upload larger files) and looking at my own images, I can zoom in on them 2 to 3 times before they become pixilated (sp?)

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