2011 was an horrific year for Fraud in China and it almost destroyed AliBaba and Taibao, the world's largest e-commerce sites, and claimed the scalps of high-calibre executives.
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HUGE FRAUD AT CHINA ECOMMERCE GIANT ALIBABA.COM ... Link (http)

The above are just two reports - Do a Google for FRAUD AT CHINA ECOMMERCE GIANT ALIBABA.COM and there are About 26,000,000 results

These are mainly instances where Buyers are being burnt by crooked Sellers but the trend is now for Chinese Buyers to target International Sellers in other countries. The PayPal Buyer Protection Plan makes it easy for them and they win almost 100% of the time with no more effort than opening up a claim and typing a single word like "nothing". No court anywhere in the world would condemn on one single word of evidence WHICH COULD HAVE DIVERSE MEANINGS --- BUT PAYPAL DOES! THEY WRITE THEIR OWN LAWS – THEY SIDE-STEP THE LAWS OF COUNTRIES BUT INSIST YOU FOLLOW THEIR LAWS.

I want to warn Sellers about an emerging fraudulent trend issuing from China and apparently having the "support" of PayPal through their Buyer Protection Scheme. Clearly a case of PayPal condoning FRAUD for Corporate profit.

This is a warning to Sellers receiving NEW sales from China to ensure that items sent are "Trackable" and "Signed For" according to the butt-protection laws laid down by PayPal. (It could cost up to AUD 50.00 to do this for even a single stamp.) If you don't, you may find PayPal placing a HOLD on your funds because the Buyer has instigated an ITEM NOT RECEIVED Claim and PayPal will ALWAYS side with the Buyer (often even if you have proof of postage). In the matter to which I refer above, PayPal must reasonably know the Buyer is a FRAUD - evidence has been provided to them but they will not do anything about it - their only criteria is their Buyer Protection excuse. In fact the Webform Response form from PayPal has 3 "multiple Choice " responses for the Seller -- all three are responses they want to hear -- there is no other alternative available. How is that for "rigging the vote"?

It's about time the Sellers stopped paying for fraud because PayPal are condoning fraud for Corporate Profit in the guise of their Buyer Protection Plan which costs them ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as the Seller always pays. The funny thing is that most buyers think they get FREE protection from PAYPAL --- WRONG! --- It's the Seller who pays for protection of the Buyer. If the Seller doesn't pay there is NO PayPal Buyer Protection because they simply don't pay. Maybe if Sellers started to insist on Buyers paying for Registered/Trackable they'd think what a lousy deal they're getting and they'd start using Moneybookers/Skrill more. The truth is that any Seller worth his salt will always refund when items go missing --- whether they were paid by PayPal, Skrill or whatever.

There are about 200,000 PayPal HORROR videos on You-Tube ---
and about 23,500,000 PayPal Fraud & Scams TABULATED on Google.

THIS CANCER HAS TO BE CURED IN 2012!

Yes. This problem has been going on for years. I have been trading on the internet since 2000 & my first contact with this type of fraud via pp was about 8 years ago......from China, of course.

Since then, it has got steadily worse & I now send all packages over $25 registered. The fraudsters rarely bother with tiny amounts.

I note what you say about paypal but am a little unsure what they can actually do about it. There have been moans about pp for ages (the site pp s***ks started yonks ago).

Let's be positive....what do YOU realistically suggest pp do to rectify the problem......maybe a combined approach from many sellers might help?

Incidentally, I am not a great fan of pp (owned by ebay for anyone who was unaware).....

PreyPal issue the following invitation to all buyers intent on committing fraud - "If your item arrived and you didn't have to sign for it, or if you weren't charged extra for "Track-able" and "Signed For", we invite you lodge a claim under our Buyer Protection Plan and we'll get your money back off the stupid seller and put it back in your account. That way, you can keep the item and get your money back as well. (We'll also get extra fees.")

The above condoning of fraud is often championed by buyers and sellers whose number in the PreyPal BPP Lottery has yet to come up. "Only pay with PP and you can get your money back."

I wonder how those buyers/sellers would feel if suddenly all sellers would follow PreyPal's instructions and requirements and charge in full for "Track-able" and "Signed For". PayPal's Buyer Protection Plan isn't something PreyPal gives you for free. In reality, the Buyers are supposed to pay for Track-able/Registered/ Signed For and that constitutes the plan. (More money for PP). I wonder how my China Fraudster would have reacted if he had to pay up to AUD $50.00 to cover the PP requirement?

However, such is the admirable quality of 99.9% of sellers I know that we don't ask this although we have every right to do so - it's not that we make extra money - only PreyPal does! In fact, nearly all sellers I know will refund in full in instances where items are undelivered for any reason. I always have and always will! My "friend" in China could also have had a full refund, including postage, had he asked for it. However, he was so intent of getting his money back the dishonest "PreyPal" way that he submitted a one word claim - "Nothing" and immediately escalated it to a full claim. I want to state at this stage that this is the ONLY claim I have experienced and it didn't necessarily happen on Delcampe. (The value of the claim was under 30 Euro but it's the principle I am standing up for). Most people wouldn't bother for under 30 EURO but to me integrity and justice is everything (and bullies like PP shouldn't win - EVER).

Incidentally, the Buyer has defrauded other Sellers in the same way. I gave PP proof of this but they ignored it. Another instance of "Condoning Fraud for corporate profit". It's criminal!

PreyPal has brainwashed most of us into believing they are magnificent because of their "Buyer Protection Plan". Actually, BPP is a lie - one of many urban legends propagated by PP. It is, in a truth, a "Seller's Money Back Guarantee Enforced by PP". PreyPal take the money out of
the seller's PP account or his bank account and give it to the fraudster. Not even remotely a PayPal Buyers Protection Plan. Just a way of encouraging fraud so they make more money.

I have been a supporter and user of PP since the year they opened. I have used PP on 19 International Online Auction Sites and several of my own sites. I have chalked up many, many thousands of transactions on PP without a single blemish. PP ignored all that, such is their
mitigated greed and poor business acumen. They really don't give a crap about anyone but themselves.

I am extremely angered by this injustice as you may have guessed already.

I can't say a great deal more at this stage except that I've spent $3,600 on professional investigators who have proven the fraud and tendered evidence that the offender is a serial fraudster who has been convicted in China (for many other frauds) and been sentenced to Capital Punishment. They don't mess around in China. I had planned a Civil Action but this was handed to me on a platter so why bother unless I have to.

PreyPal recently had a major calamity press-wise Link (http)
The fall-out from my little matter will be more intense. Some of the world media is signifying intense interest. (Executions always do).

PP are supposed to be Fraud Detection Experts but they wouldn't know a fraud if came up and bit them on the bum.
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You ask - “Let's be positive....what do YOU realistically suggest pp do to rectify the problem......maybe a combined approach from many sellers might help?”
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In my view, nobody can tell PreyPal anything -- least of all Sellers --- PP chose at its inception that "the buyer is always right".

The only way to teach them is to use Moneybookers/Skrill more. So far this month (on all the sites I use) I've managed to reduce PP payments by 55% and increased other payment methods by 142%. I no longer buy with PP. Anyone can do it in the name of justice, honesty and decency!

PreyPal issue the following invitation to all buyers intent on committing fraud - "If your item arrived and you didn't have to sign for it, or if you weren't charged extra for "Track-able" and "Signed For", we invite you lodge a claim under our Buyer Protection Plan and we'll get your money back off the stupid seller and put it back in your account. That way, you can keep the item and get your money back as well. (We'll also get extra fees.")

The above condoning of fraud is often championed by buyers and sellers whose number in the PreyPal BPP Lottery has yet to come up. "Only pay with PP and you can get your money back."

I wonder how those buyers/sellers would feel if suddenly all sellers would follow PreyPal's instructions and requirements and charge in full for "Track-able" and "Signed For". PayPal's Buyer Protection Plan isn't something PreyPal gives you for free. In reality, the Buyers are supposed to pay for Track-able/Registered/ Signed For and that constitutes the plan. (More money for PP). I wonder how my China Fraudster would have reacted if he had to pay up to AUD $50.00 to cover the PP requirement?

However, such is the admirable quality of 99.9% of sellers I know that we don't ask this although we have every right to do so - it's not that we make extra money - only PreyPal does! In fact, nearly all sellers I know will refund in full in instances where items are undelivered for any reason. I always have and always will! My "friend" in China could also have had a full refund, including postage, had he asked for it. However, he was so intent of getting his money back the dishonest "PreyPal" way that he submitted a one word claim - "Nothing" and immediately escalated it to a full claim. I want to state at this stage that this is the ONLY claim I have experienced and it didn't necessarily happen on Delcampe. (The value of the claim was under 30 Euro but it's the principle I am standing up for). Most people wouldn't bother for under 30 EURO but to me integrity and justice is everything (and bullies like PP shouldn't win - EVER).

Incidentally, the Buyer has defrauded other Sellers in the same way. I gave PP proof of this but they ignored it. Another instance of "Condoning Fraud for corporate profit". It's criminal!

PreyPal has brainwashed most of us into believing they are magnificent because of their "Buyer Protection Plan". Actually, BPP is a lie - one of many urban legends propagated by PP. It is, in a truth, a "Seller's Money Back Guarantee Enforced by PP". PreyPal take the money out of
the seller's PP account or his bank account and give it to the fraudster. Not even remotely a PayPal Buyers Protection Plan. Just a way of encouraging fraud so they make more money.

I have been a supporter and user of PP since the year they opened. I have used PP on 19 International Online Auction Sites and several of my own sites. I have chalked up many, many thousands of transactions on PP without a single blemish. PP ignored all that, such is their
mitigated greed and poor business acumen. They really don't give a crap about anyone but themselves.

I am extremely angered by this injustice as you may have guessed already.

I can't say a great deal more at this stage except that I've spent $3,600 on professional investigators who have proven the fraud and tendered evidence that the offender is a serial fraudster who has been convicted in China (for many other frauds) and been sentenced to Capital Punishment. They don't mess around in China. I had planned a Civil Action but this was handed to me on a platter so why bother unless I have to.

PreyPal recently had a major calamity press-wise Link (http)
The fall-out from my little matter will be more intense. Some of the world media is signifying intense interest. (Executions always do).

PP are supposed to be Fraud Detection Experts but they wouldn't know a fraud if came up and bit them on the bum.
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You ask - “Let's be positive....what do YOU realistically suggest pp do to rectify the problem......maybe a combined approach from many sellers might help?”
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In my view, nobody can tell PreyPal anything -- least of all Sellers --- PP chose at its inception that "the buyer is always right".

The only way to teach them is to use Moneybookers/Skrill more. So far this month (on all the sites I use) I've managed to reduce PP payments by 55% and increased other payment methods by 142%. I no longer buy with PP. Anyone can do it in the name of justice, honesty and decency!

Thanks to the many members who have contacted me directly to say thanks and to encourage me in my quest for justice.

(I think many, including PreyPal, would be surprised at the numbers).

It's certainly eye-opening to learn of the vast numbers of peed-off buyers and sellers out there. Like one person just emailed privately -- PP is "a dead man walking".