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  How do I get sellers to create PayPal invoices?     Sun 4th May 2008 08:49:06

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I am new to this site. I flat out refuse to send money straight to an account. I use PayPal in case there is a problem and let them resolve the isssue.
I have brought this to the attention of evelyn 4 times via email to were undeliverable and haven't heard back from the other inquiries. I have 2 sellers on hold right now (they both accept PayPal).
I am also leery about some questionable deals I have seen. I know U.S. coins and there value. A seller has a 1936 proof set listed for $2500.00. Now these coins are PCGS GRADED and bring PREMIUM PRICES. A eBay auction (# 130216058973) sold for $4,176.95 and were NOT GRADED. A Lincoln Cent PCGS 64 auction (#110242850780) ended at $1,050.00 and the reserve was not met. Does the seller know the values of these coins? You bet he has listed others at or above the going rate (nothing over $100). I wasn't able to buy a 1936 proof set ungraded for $2500.00 in 1970!!!! The seller is in France.
I have seen other questionable items listed. So this site really scares me. I am in the U.S. and do a lot of overseas buying on the internet via eBay and other sites and haven't encountered problems like this site has. I got a gut feeling against the Money Boobooers and (pickpocket) Wallet. Would like to hear responses from longtime members.
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  How do I get sellers to create PayPal invoices?     Sun 4th May 2008 12:57:19

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In response to 40 [100% (11x)] :
I am new to this site. I flat out refuse to send money straight to an account. I use PayPal in case there is a problem and let them resolve the isssue.
I have brought this to the attention of evelyn 4 times via email to were undeliverable and haven't heard back from the other inquiries. I have 2 sellers on hold right now (they both accept PayPal).
I am also leery about some questionable deals I have seen. I know U.S. coins and there value. A seller has a 1936 proof set listed for $2500.00. Now these coins are PCGS GRADED and bring PREMIUM PRICES. A eBay auction (# 130216058973) sold for $4,176.95 and were NOT GRADED. A Lincoln Cent PCGS 64 auction (#110242850780) ended at $1,050.00 and the reserve was not met. Does the seller know the values of these coins? You bet he has listed others at or above the going rate (nothing over $100). I wasn't able to buy a 1936 proof set ungraded for $2500.00 in 1970!!!! The seller is in France.
I have seen other questionable items listed. So this site really scares me. I am in the U.S. and do a lot of overseas buying on the internet via eBay and other sites and haven't encountered problems like this site has. I got a gut feeling against the Money Boobooers and (pickpocket) Wallet. Would like to hear responses from longtime members.

Hello.

1 You say "I have 2 sellers on hold right now (they both accept PayPal)." ?? - you do not say why they are on hold

2 It is the choice of the seller as to which forms of payment he wants to accept. If you do not like it , bid on other lots.

3 Of course there are dishonest sellers on this site, as there are everywhere, but the vast majority are honest,

4 I have been selling on e*** for over eleven years, and here for over two years. I would say that Delcampe is an excellent place to buy, many lots are being sold at much lower prices than elsewhere, simply because there are so many fewer buyers here.

Best Wishes ... James
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  Fourréé     Sun 4th May 2008 15:04:02

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In response to 40 [100% (11x)] :
I am new to this site. I flat out refuse to send money straight to an account. I use PayPal in case there is a problem and let them resolve the isssue.
I have brought this to the attention of evelyn 4 times via email to were undeliverable and haven't heard back from the other inquiries. I have 2 sellers on hold right now (they both accept PayPal).
I am also leery about some questionable deals I have seen. I know U.S. coins and there value. A seller has a 1936 proof set listed for $2500.00. Now these coins are PCGS GRADED and bring PREMIUM PRICES. A eBay auction (# 130216058973) sold for $4,176.95 and were NOT GRADED. A Lincoln Cent PCGS 64 auction (#110242850780) ended at $1,050.00 and the reserve was not met. Does the seller know the values of these coins? You bet he has listed others at or above the going rate (nothing over $100). I wasn't able to buy a 1936 proof set ungraded for $2500.00 in 1970!!!! The seller is in France.
I have seen other questionable items listed. So this site really scares me. I am in the U.S. and do a lot of overseas buying on the internet via eBay and other sites and haven't encountered problems like this site has. I got a gut feeling against the Money Boobooers and (pickpocket) Wallet. Would like to hear responses from longtime members.

I am a little worried too, because I am bidding on an ancient coin being sold in Italian by an Italian, yet he includes in the description the French word "fourrée" and I don't know what that might mean in this context.

I thought it must mean "holed" as the coin has a hole, but he has other coins described as "fourré" without a hole.

Has anyone got any ideas, please ?

Rogermo
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  How do I get sellers to create PayPal invoices?     Sun 4th May 2008 15:57:05

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Hello.

1 You say "I have 2 sellers on hold right now (they both accept PayPal)." ?? - you do not say why they are on hold

2 It is the choice of the seller as to which forms of payment he wants to accept. If you do not like it , bid on other lots.

3 Of course there are dishonest sellers on this site, as there are everywhere, but the vast majority are honest,

4 I have been selling on e*** for over eleven years, and here for over two years. I would say that Delcampe is an excellent place to buy, many lots are being sold at much lower prices than elsewhere, simply because there are so many fewer buyers here.

Best Wishes ... James

1. They are on hold because I need them to send a PayPal checkout. I'm not about to send payments to a email address only. I also sell and its easy to create a PayPal checkout. These sellers have English as a secondary language so what do I do now?
2. I ONLY BUY from sites that list PayPal.

I signed up with this site and StampWants at the same time. I have purchased from StampWants sellers that don't speak english and in fact the PayPal checkouts are in Swedish, Belgium and French. I can't read any of it but I CAN COMPLETE the checkouts!!!! The items in question are selling for under $10. These are minor purchases compared to my norm, basically a test run. I had to come to this form because I CAN'T REACH DELCAMPE TO GIVE ME ASSISTANCE WITH THE SELLERS!!!!!
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  Fourréé     Sun 4th May 2008 16:07:01

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I am a little worried too, because I am bidding on an ancient coin being sold in Italian by an Italian, yet he includes in the description the French word "fourrée" and I don't know what that might mean in this context.

I thought it must mean "holed" as the coin has a hole, but he has other coins described as "fourré" without a hole.

Has anyone got any ideas, please ?

Rogermo

Yeah Goggle this: translate fourree
I did and it comes up chocolat bon bon and underhand. I don't think its the latter. So I assume its referring to the color of the coin. I haven't tried sentences but it usually works for individual words.
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  Fourréé     Sun 4th May 2008 16:10:21

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I am a little worried too, because I am bidding on an ancient coin being sold in Italian by an Italian, yet he includes in the description the French word "fourrée" and I don't know what that might mean in this context.

I thought it must mean "holed" as the coin has a hole, but he has other coins described as "fourré" without a hole.

Has anyone got any ideas, please ?

Rogermo

Yeah Goggle this: translate fourree
I did and it comes up chocolat bon bon and underhand. I don't think its the latter. So I assume its referring to the color of the coin. I haven't tried sentences but it usually works for individual words.
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  Fourréé     Sun 4th May 2008 18:03:39

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Yeah Goggle this: translate fourree
I did and it comes up chocolat bon bon and underhand. I don't think its the latter. So I assume its referring to the color of the coin. I haven't tried sentences but it usually works for individual words.

It basically means "stuffed" or "filled", so it's the kind of chocolate which has a filling. Your translation "underhand" could mean fake, of course.

Somebody once told me that for coins it means fake. This could mean a base metal coin plated with silver, but he said it meant any fake coin. I still suspect that it means a base interior wrapped virtually in silver foil, like some Spanish fakes for tourists, almost like a chocolate coin in fact.

BUT applied to coins, it might in fact mean any coin which was made more or less in that way, and it might mean a contemporary forgery (this Italian is selling Celtic coins), which would be an collectable item. Unless he can tell me what he means, and I have asked him, I won't know, and this seems unfair, as he speaks Italian and English the same as I do. He guarantees in Italian that coins are genuine, except presumably the ones he calls "Copia" (Copy). But what about "fourrée" ?

Thanks for your help. Good luck to both of us.
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  How do I get sellers to create PayPal invoices?     Sun 4th May 2008 18:10:40

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1. They are on hold because I need them to send a PayPal checkout. I'm not about to send payments to a email address only. I also sell and its easy to create a PayPal checkout. These sellers have English as a secondary language so what do I do now?
2. I ONLY BUY from sites that list PayPal.

I signed up with this site and StampWants at the same time. I have purchased from StampWants sellers that don't speak english and in fact the PayPal checkouts are in Swedish, Belgium and French. I can't read any of it but I CAN COMPLETE the checkouts!!!! The items in question are selling for under $10. These are minor purchases compared to my norm, basically a test run. I had to come to this form because I CAN'T REACH DELCAMPE TO GIVE ME ASSISTANCE WITH THE SELLERS!!!!!

Well, I speak English too, but English English, not American English. I don't know what you mean by "send a PayPal checkout." So foreigners who speak some English English probably don't know either.

In England, a checkout is simply a till in a supermarket.

When we pay by Paypal (I have bought more than 100 things on eBay with Paypal) we just send money to the email address making sure it is the email address that is registered with Paypal. You can do the same thing with Moneybookers (I have used Moneybookers successfully quite separately from delcampe).

It's perfectly easy. Hope this helps.
Rogermo

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  How do I get sellers to create PayPal invoices?     Sun 4th May 2008 22:29:25

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Well, I speak English too, but English English, not American English. I don't know what you mean by "send a PayPal checkout." So foreigners who speak some English English probably don't know either.

In England, a checkout is simply a till in a supermarket.

When we pay by Paypal (I have bought more than 100 things on eBay with Paypal) we just send money to the email address making sure it is the email address that is registered with Paypal. You can do the same thing with Moneybookers (I have used Moneybookers successfully quite separately from delcampe).

It's perfectly easy. Hope this helps.
Rogermo



I have now linked my existing Moneybookers account to the delcampe electronic wallet. This is admirably easy to do.

I have now paid for my first purchase using this electronic wallet. It works very well, and you do get an invoice from delcampe/Moneybookers as well as the delcampe invoice from the seller. If this is what you mean by a "checkout", then this is the system for you on delcampe. I recommend it.

Rogersmo.
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  Fourréé = false ? Or not ?     Mon 5th May 2008 00:09:50

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In response to Rogermo [100% (42x)] :
It basically means "stuffed" or "filled", so it's the kind of chocolate which has a filling. Your translation "underhand" could mean fake, of course.

Somebody once told me that for coins it means fake. This could mean a base metal coin plated with silver, but he said it meant any fake coin. I still suspect that it means a base interior wrapped virtually in silver foil, like some Spanish fakes for tourists, almost like a chocolate coin in fact.

BUT applied to coins, it might in fact mean any coin which was made more or less in that way, and it might mean a contemporary forgery (this Italian is selling Celtic coins), which would be an collectable item. Unless he can tell me what he means, and I have asked him, I won't know, and this seems unfair, as he speaks Italian and English the same as I do. He guarantees in Italian that coins are genuine, except presumably the ones he calls "Copia" (Copy). But what about "fourrée" ?

Thanks for your help. Good luck to both of us.
Rogermo

The Italian seller has explained to me what HE means by it:
a genuine Celtic coin made with only a thin superficial layer of silver over base metal. There are, of course, Roman coins like this too, often called "silver-washed". The term "silvered" could also be used. "Silver-plated" suggests something later and more industrial, I think, and in the case of coins, almost always a fake. As in "This silver dollar is actually silver-plated".

But what of the French ? According to the Italian seller, when they buy ancient coins, they mean by "fourrée" exactly what he does. On the other hand, I have been assured by a French coin-collector that it means a fake. One of the best dictionaries (Le Petit Robert, 2172 page despite its name!) agrees with him in no uncertain terms:
"Paix fourrée : paix .. qui cache de mauvais desseins et ne saurait être durable
Monnaie fourré: Fausse monnaie de cuivre recouverte d’or, d’argent"
So it's a FALSE coin, of copper plated with gold or silver. Fausse = FALSE.
There is also a "paix fourrée", a FALSE peace treaty hiding bad intentions.
And other usages too, meaning FALSE.

So it is not a good word to use for selling genuine coins to people who are not all French-speaking ancient coin experts, I would have thought, especially if the coin is not advertised in French and the seller is not French !
This sort of thing can lead to confusion at the very least.

The seller insisted indignantly that ALL his coins are genuine, but this is not true, because some are clearly marked "Copia" (copy). (Clear if you know enough Italian, of course). Some of these are the WRL reproductions made in Birmingham, easily and cheaply available in British museums. (He uses WRL in the description: he doesn't hide it).

I am quite surprised that Delcampe, being a reputable international site with the interests of collectors at heart, does not have some kind of compulsory international symbol to indicate if something is a copy or a fake or a forgery, and another symbol available to indicate that it is totally genuine when there might be some doubt. Just a suggestion, but I expect I am too new to make suggestions.

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  Fourréé = false ? Or not ?     Mon 5th May 2008 00:46:05

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The Italian seller has explained to me what HE means by it:
a genuine Celtic coin made with only a thin superficial layer of silver over base metal. There are, of course, Roman coins like this too, often called "silver-washed". The term "silvered" could also be used. "Silver-plated" suggests something later and more industrial, I think, and in the case of coins, almost always a fake. As in "This silver dollar is actually silver-plated".

But what of the French ? According to the Italian seller, when they buy ancient coins, they mean by "fourrée" exactly what he does. On the other hand, I have been assured by a French coin-collector that it means a fake. One of the best dictionaries (Le Petit Robert, 2172 page despite its name!) agrees with him in no uncertain terms:
"Paix fourrée : paix .. qui cache de mauvais desseins et ne saurait être durable
Monnaie fourré: Fausse monnaie de cuivre recouverte d’or, d’argent"
So it's a FALSE coin, of copper plated with gold or silver. Fausse = FALSE.
There is also a "paix fourrée", a FALSE peace treaty hiding bad intentions.
And other usages too, meaning FALSE.

So it is not a good word to use for selling genuine coins to people who are not all French-speaking ancient coin experts, I would have thought, especially if the coin is not advertised in French and the seller is not French !
This sort of thing can lead to confusion at the very least.

The seller insisted indignantly that ALL his coins are genuine, but this is not true, because some are clearly marked "Copia" (copy). (Clear if you know enough Italian, of course). Some of these are the WRL reproductions made in